Progress report

Ben, 05 Sep 2006 19:18:12

Hi again,

I got a reply from necrobabes - they're discussing amongst themselves how to reply, if at all.

I've also discovered that the san francisco bay guardian probably published a favourable article about the site in about 2000 (it's hard to be sure because the review is s only available at present on a 'radical feminist' website that only selectively quotes from it). Anyway, the editor responsible for the article is still a prominent journalist - and she's got a book out! - so I sent her an email asking if she would be willing to help find the original article, or write something new for publication in the UK.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks


Ben, 05 Sep 2006 19:59:23

Sorry for posting again so soon, but I'm quite excited - the editor has already replied to me with the email address of the author of the original article, I've emailed him, so fingers crossed we'll have the full article soon.


Teddy, 05 Sep 2006 20:28:57

Hi Ben,

I am unsurprised that the staff of necrobabes are being reticent, although I don't know how you approached them in your e-mail. Yes a British MP has slandered them on national radio and the legislation might take away a small section of their market, but they will probably want to maintain a low profile.
I hope I'm wrong, as debunking the Salter mythology is a worthy aim.

T.

Author wrote:
> Hi again,
> I got a reply from necrobabes - they're discussing amongst themselves how to reply, if at all.
> I've also discovered that the san francisco bay guardian probably published a favourable article about the site in about 2000 (it's hard to be sure because the review is s only available at present on a 'radical feminist' website that only selectively quotes from it). Anyway, the editor responsible for the article is still a prominent journalist - and she's got a book out! - so I sent her an email asking if she would be willing to help find the original article, or write something new for publication in the UK.
> I'll keep you posted.
> Thanks


demolitionred, 06 Sep 2006 15:21:53

thanks for all your hard work. keep it up.


btw , I ahve been contacted by someone who used to make some of their images..he has referred me to some of their actresses...all alive well and happy to do more.


Ben, 06 Sep 2006 20:28:41

Firstly - Necrobabes themselves:

One of the principals, Peter Cohen, has drafted a letter and is consulting with the rest of them about it. I'm fairly hopeful they will go through with it, because despite what you might think, they have been interviewed by mainstream media at least twice in the past.

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I'm still waiting to hear back from the author in the san francisco bay guardian.

But, I used the internet archive and found the article.

Go to:

http://www.archive.org/index.php

and search for:

http://www.sfbg.com/SFLife/34/24/lead.html

There is another interview here, which was mentioned on the informed consent boards:

http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0550,gates,70911,24.html

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OK, so, Backlash, I can see four possible options now (not mutually exclusive):

a) publicise these articles, or quote them on backlash (you might need permission from the authors
b) contact the original authors to write something new in light of the recent laws
c) contact the site producers directly and ask them how their letter is coming on?
d) try and contact the models directly?

Again, I'm happy to do any of these things myself now, as I've satisfied myself that I've amassed enough evidence that this site is nothing like Salter claims.

Thanks.

PS, who on this site as well as demolitionred is actually an 'official' backlash person, i.e. speaks on their behalf, runs the site, etc?


demolitionred, 06 Sep 2006 21:36:03

the only other person who is active on here is Conto. we are trying to set up some fora that are less unreliable then we'll all be able to talk...In the meantime, I'll pass your info on to the peopel working on snuff..


if you would like to talk to them, I'll pass your e-address to them...

sorry. I know its clunky. it will get betetr
Author wrote:
> Firstly - Necrobabes themselves:
> One of the principals, Peter Cohen, has drafted a letter and is consulting with the rest of them about it. I'm fairly hopeful they will go through with it, because despite what you might think, they have been interviewed by mainstream media at least twice in the past.
> ---------
> I'm still waiting to hear back from the author in the san francisco bay guardian.
> But, I used the internet archive and found the article.
> Go to:
> http://www.archive.org/index.php
> and search for:
> http://www.sfbg.com/SFLife/34/24/lead.html
> There is another interview here, which was mentioned on the informed consent boards:
> http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0550,gates,70911,24.html
> --------------
> OK, so, Backlash, I can see four possible options now (not mutually exclusive):
> a) publicise these articles, or quote them on backlash (you might need permission from the authors
> b) contact the original authors to write something new in light of the recent laws
> c) contact the site producers directly and ask them how their letter is coming on?
> d) try and contact the models directly?
> Again, I'm happy to do any of these things myself now, as I've satisfied myself that I've amassed enough evidence that this site is nothing like Salter claims.
> Thanks.
> PS, who on this site as well as demolitionred is actually an 'official' backlash person, i.e. speaks on their behalf, runs the site, etc?


Ben, 06 Sep 2006 21:46:43

Author wrote:
> the only other person who is active on here is Conto. we are trying to set up some fora that are less unreliable then we'll all be able to talk...In the meantime, I'll pass your info on to the peopel working on snuff..
> if you would like to talk to them, I'll pass your e-address to them...
> sorry. I know its clunky. it will get betetr

Thanks for the offer, and I'm sure it'll sound like pot calling the kettle black, but though I'm happy to join the celebrity mailing list, I don't want to join the 'snuff' one.

For me personally, I'm happier posting stuff up online, and reading stuff online than exchanging emails. So I'm glad to hear you're working on the fora.

Thanks.


Teddy, 07 Sep 2006 02:08:30

Sounds encouraging; the more evidence/testimony there is the better. I would imagine the site would have quite a good slander case against Salter, although this is probably not what they have in mind!

T.

Author wrote:
> Firstly - Necrobabes themselves:
> One of the principals, Peter Cohen, has drafted a letter and is consulting with the rest of them about it. I'm fairly hopeful they will go through with it, because despite what you might think, they have been interviewed by mainstream media at least twice in the past.
> ---------
> I'm still waiting to hear back from the author in the san francisco bay guardian.
> But, I used the internet archive and found the article.
> Go to:
> http://www.archive.org/index.php
> and search for:
> http://www.sfbg.com/SFLife/34/24/lead.html
> There is another interview here, which was mentioned on the informed consent boards:
> http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0550,gates,70911,24.html
> --------------
> OK, so, Backlash, I can see four possible options now (not mutually exclusive):
> a) publicise these articles, or quote them on backlash (you might need permission from the authors
> b) contact the original authors to write something new in light of the recent laws
> c) contact the site producers directly and ask them how their letter is coming on?
> d) try and contact the models directly?
> Again, I'm happy to do any of these things myself now, as I've satisfied myself that I've amassed enough evidence that this site is nothing like Salter claims.
> Thanks.
> PS, who on this site as well as demolitionred is actually an 'official' backlash person, i.e. speaks on their behalf, runs the site, etc?


zak, 10 Sep 2006 00:09:10

Eleventhour, you're doing great. I can report that a news item on the
campaign will be in the next issue of Forum magazine (due out at the end of
September and the next issue of Desire magazine (due out October).

Also, with regard to possible celebrity backers, has anyone tried
Christopher Brookmyre? At least two of his books (Country of the Blind and
Not The End Of The World) take some pretty hefty potshots at anti-porn
campaigners. And he seems like a pretty cool dude.

Z

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rosalee, 10 Sep 2006 01:19:45

If they don't want to draw too much attention to themselves, could it be
suggested to them that they ask actresses who work for them, or who have
done, if they would be willing to make a statement instead, as individuals
who have worked for necrobabes?

I don't know if this has already been suggested. There has been a lot of
backlash post over the last few days so I may have missed it. Apologies, if
that's the case.

Ginny


-----Original Message-----
Teddysmith2@hotmail.co.uk [mailto:Teddysmith2@hotmail.co.uk], 10 Sep 2006 01:19:45
Sent: 05 September 2006 20:21

Hi Ben,

I am unsurprised that the staff of necrobabes are being reticent, although I
don't know how you approached them in your e-mail. Yes a British MP has
slandered them on national radio and the legislation might take away a small
section of their market, but they will probably want to maintain a low
profile.
I hope I'm wrong, as debunking the Salter mythology is a worthy aim.

T.


Ben, 10 Sep 2006 11:28:05

Hi,

Yes, I did suggest this, and depending on whether the producers write a letter and who signs it (maybe the models will) then I agree. I'll give them a week from when I first emailed them, send a follow up to find out what's going on, and if they're not getting on with it, then I think it would be perfectly legitimate to contact the models direct. As I mentioned, the models are listed on the site and although some are pseudonyms, some have their own sites by means of which they could be contacted directly.

I notice that the backlash site now says:

"(for journalists and producers reading this, backlash could produce a variety of happy and very much undead models on demand)." http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/press.html

So if this has already been done, can someone please let me know who these models are so I don't have to duplicate someone else's work.

Thanks

Author wrote:
> If they don't want to draw too much attention to themselves, could it be
> suggested to them that they ask actresses who work for them, or who have
> done, if they would be willing to make a statement instead, as individuals
> who have worked for necrobabes?
> I don't know if this has already been suggested. There has been a lot of
> backlash post over the last few days so I may have missed it. Apologies, if
> that's the case.
> Ginny