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Letter to Martin 'Salt of the Earth' Salter

Arron Fitzgerald, 05 Sep 2006 00:05:36

Dear All

Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.

Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I believe that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge emotional investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even compromise in his support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards him.

On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying purposes and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me directly if necessary

Arron

----- Original Message -----

Arron Fitzgerald, 05 Sep 2006 00:05:36

To: salterm@parliament.uk
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:47 AM

Teddy, 05 Sep 2006 00:35:31

Pretty snappy, although he is probably too far up his own arse to take note.

On the subject of Salter, I know that there are some brave individuals on here trying to collate evidence surrounding the "necrobabes" site. It is also important that we have the real soundtrack of the R5 show saved somewhere, as it will disappear all too quickly. From my PC I have been unable to save it as a file, so far...

If we can fit everything together nicely, then and only then should we approach the press with this. Wonder what the Reading Post would make of it all?

T.

Author wrote:
> Dear All
> Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.
> Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I believe that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge emotional investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even compromise in his support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards him.
> On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying purposes and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me directly if necessary
> Arron
> ----- Original Message -----

: Arron Fitzgerald, 05 Sep 2006 00:35:31

> To: salterm@parliament.uk
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:47 AM
> Subject: Overwhelming Public Oppostion
> Dear Mr Salter
> It would appear that your campaign to introduce sexual thought crime, involving deception, misrepresentation, and downright lies has seriously backfired, as can be seen from the discussion thread below:
> http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/comments/view.html?story_id=2003412
> You have brutally and cynically exploited the grief of a mother to advance your career, legislate your bigotry and ignorance, and get the Labour Party a few more votes. Fancy a ministerial position in a Gordon Brown government by any chance?
> When you are eventually exposed as a liar over your claims regarding, to name but one, the participants of the 'Necrobabes site' being victims of human trafficking, will you pose for another photoshoot with the Reading Post for a headline reading 'LOCAL MP's LIES ON VIOLENT PORN REVEALED'? Or when the legislation, if the government manages to force it through Parliament, is ruled incompatible with the ECHR (as advised by numerous lawyers but suppressed in the government's official response), will you pose for a headline such as 'DEFEAT FOR JANE'?
> I look forward to hearing back from you.
> Arron Fitzgerald

rovacs, 05 Sep 2006 01:17:33

The sort of man a splendid old word I'm using a lot these days was invented for-Marty Saltmines is a poltroon. I wished you'd mentioned that when he witters on about the opa having made the stuff illegal he is telling whoppers. Who are these smarmy idiots who feel they can pollute tv studios and eveywhere else they infest falsifying facts about criminal law. Mind tho' Saltsmeller may not be on the hook for lacking even a nodding aquaintence with truth yet,I reckon Chokechain could be on it-you can't be a minister and falsify the result of a consultation on a bill you are responsible for-involving deadly serious criminal legislation over the airwaves and not be breaking the rules. The press must get this one,Parliament must act upon it-otherwise the law is truly an ass and justice just a beardie bloke who used to be in films.
The ECHR/Convention/HRA-I have suggested a dossier-frankly a lot of the spadework has been done by Mr.Singh and other Consultation responders on how its incompatable(its incompatible with a flashing sign like Vegas casino on top announcing it is!). Best hope for sanity seems the ECHR-Blair can't control them in any way-they are beyond the clutches of the Establishment here.
Statements about things with no evidence to back them up from Vogon,Longhurst,Salt,Goggstapo-the myths and legends,lies misrepresentations-affidavits from those involved in demonized sites contradicting their white slaver slavver. So if the usual suspects come to court as witnesses they end up exposed as liars and hopefully perjurors. Coakers massively assisted it despite himself with that one interview-
He refuses to say evidence of "harm"
He uses 2 justifications for legislation-"necessity" is a critical test if your'e to be exempt from Articles-and both the justifications he uses are false and as they are document and law can be proved to be such before the judges have stopped laughing that any country allowed itself to be ruled over by a barking mad sanctimonious booby who passes a Human Rights Act and precedes to bang in laws which imprison people for years on the basis of looking at a picture.
Under what we have so far "possessing" a pic of Janet Leigh's shower in "Psycho" is potentially worthy of a gulag break at Bliar barracks.

Author wrote:
> Dear All
> Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.
> Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I believe that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge emotional investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even compromise in his support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards him.
> On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying purposes and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me directly if necessary
> Arron
> ----- Original Message -----

: Arron Fitzgerald, 05 Sep 2006 01:17:33

Teddy, 05 Sep 2006 01:35:48

"Under what we have so far "possessing" a pic of Janet Leigh's shower in "Psycho" is potentially worthy of a gulag break at Bliar barracks."

I used that example in my consultation response. But at least no poor Guatemalan prostitutes were murdered by Hitchcock in the making on this film!

T.

rovacs, 05 Sep 2006 10:33:13

Wonder how many who watch "Psycho" have gone on to become knife wielding transvestites who attack ladies in the shower?
God this is so stupid it beggars belief-but I never thought a god bothering truly psychotic turd who lied us blatantly and wickedly into a disastrous vile war could ever be put back in charge of the country when his perfidy was publicly exposed-so maybe insanity on a scale we've never seen before here is par for the course.
I'm going to try and see to it Choke's falsifications reach the press.

Author wrote:
> "Under what we have so far "possessing" a pic of Janet Leigh's shower in "Psycho" is potentially worthy of a gulag break at Bliar barracks."
> I used that example in my consultation response. But at least no poor Guatemalan prostitutes were murdered by Hitchcock in the making on this film!
> T.

zak, 05 Sep 2006 15:04:39

You'll get no disagrement from me. This shithead would never be won round,
so presenting him with an unvarnished view of his conduct can't do any harm
and just might trigger some feelings of unease or shame in his pustular
little mind.

Good work matey
Z
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Arron Fitzgerald arron_fitzgerald@hotmail.co.uk, 05 Sep 2006 15:04:39

Dear All

Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and
vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.

Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I
believe that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge
emotional investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even
compromise in his support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards
him.

On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a
more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering
collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying
purposes and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me
directly if necessary

Arron

----- Original Message -----

Arron Fitzgerald, Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:10:35 +0100

To: salterm@parliament.uk
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:47 AM

demolitionred, 06 Sep 2006 15:23:37

It is also important that we have the real soundtrack of the R5 show saved somewhere, as it will disappear all too quickly. From my PC I have been unable to save it as a file, so far...
> If we can fit everything together nicely, then and only then should we approach the press with this. Wonder what the Reading Post would make of it all?
> T.
> Author wrote:

we d have it on an MP3...it is going up on the backlash site//

rovacs, 07 Sep 2006 00:55:38

I haven't heard it yet-I will-meantime if you see this DR anything of note like the R4 Interview with Coaker which exposes him-or anyone else relevant getting caught fibbing?

Author wrote:
> It is also important that we have the real soundtrack of the R5 show saved somewhere, as it will disappear all too quickly. From my PC I have been unable to save it as a file, so far...
> > If we can fit everything together nicely, then and only then should we approach the press with this. Wonder what the Reading Post would make of it all?
> > T.
> > Author wrote:
> we d have it on an MP3...it is going up on the backlash site//

demolitionred, 07 Sep 2006 06:40:13

on R5 Martin Salter was inept...rather than a liar....

Author wrote:
> I haven't heard it yet-I will-meantime if you see this DR anything of note like the R4 Interview with Coaker which exposes him-or anyone else relevant getting caught fibbing?
> Author wrote:
> > It is also important that we have the real soundtrack of the R5 show saved somewhere, as it will disappear all too quickly. From my PC I have been unable to save it as a file, so far...
> > > If we can fit everything together nicely, then and only then should we approach the press with this. Wonder what the Reading Post would make of it all?
> > > T.
> > > Author wrote:
> > we d have it on an MP3...it is going up on the backlash site//

Teddy, 07 Sep 2006 15:25:55

He clearly stated that sites such as "necrobabes" feature "snuff-movies"; of course, they show nothing of the sort. It's a deliberate attempt to mis-represent this material, following on from the people smuggling from Guatemala etc.etc...
If he ain't a liar, he certainly needs to do his homework!

T.

Author wrote:
> on R5 Martin Salter was inept...rather than a liar....
> Author wrote:
> > I haven't heard it yet-I will-meantime if you see this DR anything of note like the R4 Interview with Coaker which exposes him-or anyone else relevant getting caught fibbing?
> > Author wrote:
> > > It is also important that we have the real soundtrack of the R5 show saved somewhere, as it will disappear all too quickly. From my PC I have been unable to save it as a file, so far...
> > > > If we can fit everything together nicely, then and only then should we approach the press with this. Wonder what the Reading Post would make of it all?
> > > > T.
> > > > Author wrote:
> > > we d have it on an MP3...it is going up on the backlash site//

Amelie, 09 Sep 2006 19:30:41

remind me - who is Salt of the Earth and what is ECHR?

----- Original Message -----

"Arron Fitzgerald" , 09 Sep 2006 19:30:41

To:
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:10 AM

Dear All

Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and
vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.

Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I believe
that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge emotional
investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even compromise in his
support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards him.

On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a
more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering
collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying purposes
and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me directly
if necessary

Arron

----- Original Message -----

Arron Fitzgerald, 09 Sep 2006 19:30:41

To: salterm@parliament.uk
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:47 AM

rovacs, 09 Sep 2006 20:17:54

Martin Salter-repressive sanctimonious Labour MP who is going around stretching the reality to support police state legislation. ECHR-European Convention on Human Rights or the European Court of Human Rights which judges if countries are abusing human rights who belong to that Convention.

Author wrote:
> remind me - who is Salt of the Earth and what is ECHR?
> ----- Original Message -----

: "Arron Fitzgerald" , 09 Sep 2006 20:17:54

> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:10 AM
> Subject: [backlash] Letter to Martin 'Salt of the Earth' Salter
> Dear All
> Please see my letter below. I hope you will forgive the sardonic and
> vitriolic tone, but I needed to get this off my chest.
> Anticipating that some of you may regard it as counter-productive, I believe
> that Salt of the Earth is a lost cause - has now has a huge emotional
> investment in the campaign, and will not back down or even compromise in his
> support regardless of whatever lobbying we direct towards him.
> On a related note, I now committed to pulling my finger out and joining a
> more serious campaign effort. Those of you who are considering
> collaborating on an ECHR 'dossier', both for Parliamentary lobbying purposes
> and possible future HRA litigation please feel free to contact me directly
> if necessary
> Arron
> ----- Original Message -----

: Arron Fitzgerald, 09 Sep 2006 20:17:54

> To: salterm@parliament.uk
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:47 AM
> Subject: Overwhelming Public Oppostion
> Dear Mr Salter
> It would appear that your campaign to introduce sexual thought crime,
> involving deception, misrepresentation, and downright lies has seriously
> backfired, as can be seen from the discussion thread below:
> http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/comments/view.html?story_id=2003412
> You have brutally and cynically exploited the grief of a mother to advance
> your career, legislate your bigotry and ignorance, and get the Labour Party
> a few more votes. Fancy a ministerial position in a Gordon Brown government
> by any chance?
> When you are eventually exposed as a liar over your claims regarding, to
> name but one, the participants of the 'Necrobabes site' being victims of
> human trafficking, will you pose for another photoshoot with the Reading
> Post for a headline reading 'LOCAL MP's LIES ON VIOLENT PORN REVEALED'? Or
> when the legislation, if the government manages to force it through
> Parliament, is ruled incompatible with the ECHR (as advised by numerous
> lawyers but suppressed in the government's official response), will you pose
> for a headline such as 'DEFEAT FOR JANE'?
> I look forward to hearing back from you.
> Arron Fitzgerald