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deno, 28 Apr 2006 08:04:17

Paul C. Dickie, 06 May 2006 18:34:55

A more appropriate case would surely be that of Brady and Hindley, as it
appears Brady was a nutter who was influenced by the printed *word* and
various accounts of Nazi atrocities. Those crimes were committed before
even ArpaNet came into being...

Perhaps Gormless might like to draw up a list of books he'd burn?

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< Paul >

Angus Scrimm, 06 May 2006 20:42:48

Author wrote:
> A more appropriate case would surely be that of Brady and Hindley, as it
> appears Brady was a nutter who was influenced by the printed *word* and
> various accounts of Nazi atrocities. Those crimes were committed before
> even ArpaNet came into being...
> Perhaps Gormless might like to draw up a list of books he'd burn?
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> < Paul >

Dont tempt him Paul! His list would be every book, excepting the bible probaby!

deno, 07 May 2006 18:09:24

In a message dated 21/04/2006 07:20:37 GMT Standard Time,
Teddysmith2@hotmail.co.uk writes:

The case of Peter Sucliffe (Yorks Ripper) has also been mentioned in a few
consultation responses I have read. He killed 13 women around 25 years ago,
because "God told him to", apparently...

T.

Yes, the Yorkshire Ripper is another for the list and maybe the one most
people remember.
Obviously his "Voices, God told him" etc., was just his excuse and if the
internet had been around then his defence might have used that instead.

A journalist unearthed the sordid reality, evidence of his "sexual
perversion" not used by the prosecution at the trial. Maybe even lawyers have to draw
a line. Apparently he had some special gear which I won't describe here and
after the killings he masturbated in triumph over
his victim's corpse. Plenty of DNA for the police to prove the case!

Of course this has no connection whatsoever with us in BDSM and I am sure we
all share the revulsion of the public for those who take a young life just
to "get off".

Hopefully the Home Office is taking our consultation replies into account.

deno

PS Tried to post this on 21st but it didn't make it. Trying to make the
point not understood by HO that viewing extreme sites does not make a killer.
Maybe exciting for someone who already has that urge and who would psych
himself up to strike regardless of whether he saw
videos and internet sites and the proof is there from the records of past
cases.
Any new law would be futile as such a person would ignore, it if he even
knew it existed.
If life imprisonment or even the death penalty (Christie) did not stop them
then what hope for
new legislation?

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deno, 07 May 2006 23:43:45

Am posting this on 7th May let's see when it appears

In a message dated 06/05/2006 18:30:43 GMT Standard Time,
pcd-sm@bozzie.demon.co.uk writes:

A more appropriate case would surely be that of Brady and Hindley, as it
appears Brady was a nutter who was influenced by the printed *word* and
various accounts of Nazi atrocities. Those crimes were committed before
even ArpaNet came into being...

Perhaps Gormless might like to draw up a list of books he'd burn?

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< Paul >

Quite agree and I think when he first started the death penalty was still in
force which proves that the law is no deterent to the "nutter" psycho. He
also had books by deSade but was a coward who only picked on children.
Good point about burning books which would take us back to Queen Mary's
reign.
Read about a squire in those times who when asked what was on his bonfire
said, "I am burning my books before my books burn me!"
Seriously though HO should be reminded that there is plenty of printed info
about past atrocities and genocide available and if they ban extreme images
nutter psychos would get even more excited from the printed word and the
fantasies created in their tormented minds.
Yet another indication that proposed legislation will have no effect on such
people and should be scrapped.

deno

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zak, 08 May 2006 12:04:05

And there's still a far stronger case to be made for banning the Bible/the
Koran on the grounds that their readers have killed/maimed/harmed far more
people than any consumers of pornography.
Not that I'm advocating banning anything, of course, but from Peter
Sutcliffe to the 7/7 bombers, superstition does far more damage than
masturbation.

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Paul Tavener, 11 May 2006 18:44:18

I agree. It is also an excellant response to the arguement that all/most sexual crime is committed by users of porn.

all/most terrorist attrocities are committed by believers in religion, but that is not a good enough reason to ban religion is it?

Author wrote:
> And there's still a far stronger case to be made for banning the Bible/the
> Koran on the grounds that their readers have killed/maimed/harmed far more
> people than any consumers of pornography.
> Not that I'm advocating banning anything, of course, but from Peter
> Sutcliffe to the 7/7 bombers, superstition does far more damage than
> masturbation.
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Paul C. Dickie, 12 May 2006 07:52:20

In message <7759631.1147369169787.JavaMail.root@thallium.smartgroups.com
>, admin@ofwatch.org.uk wrote:
>I agree. It is also an excellant response to the arguement that all/most sexual
>crime is committed by users of porn.
>
>all/most terrorist attrocities are committed by believers in religion, but that
>is not a good enough reason to ban religion is it?

Can you think of a better reason? ;-)

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deno, 18 May 2006 23:42:34

In a message dated 08/05/2006 12:14:34 GMT Standard Time,
zak@missdemeanour.idps.co.uk writes:

And there's still a far stronger case to be made for banning the Bible/the
Koran on the grounds that their readers have killed/maimed/harmed far more
people than any consumers of pornography.
Not that I'm advocating banning anything, of course, but from Peter
Sutcliffe to the 7/7 bombers, superstition does far more damage than
masturbation.

Yes. Agreed. My point was that Sutcliffe's defence was a lie and that he
did it to wank over his victims corpse. Also he was not detered by the
penalty of life imprisonment and even his dad said, "He should have hanged!" One
hardly needs a crystal ball to weigh up the attitude of such a creature to the
proposed legislation, "When I feel the urge I will download it and if you
jail me I will do the same again as soon as I am released. There is nothing
you can do to stop me! I will run amuck till my numbers up".

deno

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