Ch4 debate

Teddy, 27 Apr 2006 02:18:27

Hi All,

I found this on the Channel 4 website whilst, unsuccessfully, searching for their consultation reponse. There was apparently a programme about the "Animal Farm" bestiality film, in the context of the proposed tightening of the law.

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/T/talking_points/

Although we don't know how many voters there have been for the viewers poll ("Should the Obscene Publications Act be amended to treat bestial pornography and extreme violent sexual material in the same way as child pornography?"), it currently shows 37% yes, 51% no and 12% undecided. :o)

T.


Stu, 27 Apr 2006 08:56:22

I actually saw this sorry excuse for a TV show on
Monday night.
After the producers spent ages lovingly ( and
exploitative ) pouring over the details of an obscure
1970 Danish bestiality film, they hacked a piece of
self-important " moral stance " on the last five
minutes - on the basis that we all needed protection-
ironically from the very sort of sensational claptrap
on which they had based their programme.
Cue two longish interviews with an anti-porn " worthy"
and one bad quote from Tuppy Owen ( hardly
journalistic balance ? ) and the credits rolled save
in the knowledge that the Home Office would shortly be
saving us from this tide of filth.
Really bad TV. And it warranties a formal complaint to
OFCOM.

Stuart Andrews


> Hi All,
>
> I found this on the Channel 4 website whilst,
> unsuccessfully, searching for their consultation
> reponse. There was apparently a programme about the
> "Animal Farm" bestiality film, in the context of the
> proposed tightening of the law.
>
>
http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/T/talking_points/
>
> Although we don't know how many voters there have
> been for the viewers poll ("Should the Obscene
> Publications Act be amended to treat bestial
> pornography and extreme violent sexual material in
> the same way as child pornography?"), it currently
> shows 37% yes, 51% no and 12% undecided. :o)
>
> T.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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demolitionred, 05 May 2006 11:02:51

there has been extensive debate about this on www.informedconsent.co.uk.


I'll summarise developments below.....I have a CD rom copy of the programme if anyone wants to watch it before they contact ofcom...


I don't know if anyone else watched the channel 4 program this evening in their dark side of porn series but it ended very worryingly.
The Program was titled "The search for animal farm" and followed the history of the infamous film and the female star made infamous by it.

It was true to it's purpose in that it was very dark, dealing with the appalling childhood trauma of this woman, the lack of love and abuse from her family and her exploits in the pornographic field.

It followed the history of the film and how it made it's way to the UK and subsequent distribution.

All well and good, it did exactly what it said on the tin, until the last few minutes.

After nearly an hour of exposure to various animals and naked women with no actual footage of any act whatsoever, just with a voiceover telling you how shocking the things they couldn't show were, how depraved the acts, how thoroughly bad and disgusting the whole thing was complete with simulated scenes of people watching it being appalled.

We then are informed that there is an act before parliament to be heard later this year to outlaw these images by making it an offence to possess them by equating them to images of child pornography.

The only mention against this was a single sentence from Dr Tuppy Owens saying that it would be fought.

It seems to me that someone at Channel 4 has got it in for Porn because the majority of their programming regarding non mainstream porn appears to have a very negative slant and almost none of it shows anything positive.

The inclusion of this random statement regarding the legislation at the end of this extremely negatively biased program is bound to get the moral majority firmly in the sign it in to law camp.

The amount of people shown in this program telling everyone how bad and disgusting it was just showed that the Mary Whitehouse syndrome is alive and well, we watched it all the way through just to be able to say it's horrible and you shouldn't be allowed to see it for yourself and anyone having a copy should be arrested.

For anyone wishing to make a complaint or ask C4 why their program mentioned the legislation or when are they going to address the positive side you can email them here.

viewerenquiries@channel4.co.uk

Write to them here

Send a letter to: Viewer Enquiries Channel 4 Television 124 Horseferry Road London SW1P 2TX

And telephone them here

020 7306 8333 9am-9pm weekdays, 11am-7.30pm Saturdays (closed 2pm-3pm), 10am-6pm (closed 1pm-2pm) Sundays and public holidays For hard of hearing viewers with Minicom: 020 7306 8691 (please note that calls may be recorded for training purposes)

If you enjoy your right to view images in the privacy of your own home it would pay you to contact C4 to make your views known.



After this post on the site, Macrame contacted Channel 4, Ofcom and the programme's production company, http://www.radartv.co.uk



I've just spoken to Channel 4 and as per usual customer services masquerading as viewer enquiries couldn't wait to get me off the phone because they cannot comment.
They would however pass my comments on to some 750 people associated with the show including Andy Duncan their chief executive officer.

They would not give me the contact details for anyone involved in the making of the show, only the snail mail address for the production company, Radar television.

After googling the address I found contact details and spoke to a producer there who said to address any comments to her.

Their web page is here http://www.radartv.co.uk and the lady to contact if you want to ask questions or make your comments known is Sam Evans and you can contact her here sam.evans@radartv.co.uk


demolitionred, 05 May 2006 11:03:34

On 24 April Macrame wrote:


I've just spoken to Channel 4 and as per usual customer services masquerading as viewer enquiries couldn't wait to get me off the phone because they cannot comment.
They would however pass my comments on to some 750 people associated with the show including Andy Duncan their chief executive officer.

They would not give me the contact details for anyone involved in the making of the show, only the snail mail address for the production company, Radar television.

After googling the address I found contact details and spoke to a producer there who said to address any comments to her.

Their web page is here http://www.radartv.co.uk and the lady to contact if you want to ask questions or make your comments known is Sam Evans and you can contact her here sam.evans@radartv.co.uk


demolitionred, 05 May 2006 11:04:21

Thanks to Macrame's efforts, Ofocm have re-opened the case.


For anyone who wants to stick their oar in without having to make a complaint where you have to give your name and address to Ofcom.
The person now dealing with complaint 2676310 is a Mr Andrew Morgan

You can email him direct at andrew.morgan@ofcom.org.uk and just reference the complaint number.