online consultation response form
Manniq, 08 Nov 2005 21:58:13
This might be a slight trap. If anything, I suggest you design your OWN online consultation response form (or design a document that can be circulated to would-be resp[ondents).
The point noted so far is that the Scottish version forces you down a route whereby you either have to buy into the proposal or reject it in its entirety (and you don't really need a form to do that).
Regards,
M
Author wrote:
> In trying to make up a response pack to forward to would-be respondants, I
> have once again failed to find a link to the online response sheet to the
> consultation on extreme pornography. I have visited both backlash sites
> and unfettered.
> I notice there does not seem to be a link from the smart group to the new
> web site, which was therefore not easy to find and I only found the
> suggested views by accident after having searched through files. But then, I
> responded to postings and emails for weeks before discovering a particular
> thread for research queries.
> have tried many ways to find online consultation response form on extreme
> pornography. Search engines find links which lead to page not found errors
> and Home office home page search engine returns no matches found for
> consultation on extreme pornography or even for pornography alone.
> still the only reliable link seems to be from unfettered to the scottish
> version and even there the online interactive form seems to have
> disappeared .
> any ideas - it is obviously easier to get people to fill in an on-line form
> than print off and respond by post to the entire pdf consultation file.
> Amelie
> ----- Original Message -----
: "Lothario" , 08 Nov 2005 21:58:13
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [backlash] Role of the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF)
> Note that in some countries (eg. Singapore, China), the only way to
> legally access the Internet is through a state-approved or state-owned
> ISP. This gives the state direct control over what is said and the
> power to simply remove the ability of people they don't like to use
> the Internet entirely.
> I'm not saying that it will happen here in quite the same way, because
> there is money involved and the UK government wouldn't want to do
> anything to offend big business or fall foul of various EU/WTO trade
> rules.
> However, there are other effects of the increasing amount of regulation:
> - It entrenches the position of large Internet businesses and
> threatens that of small ones. Small businesses find it much harder to
> cope with the overhead of red tape.
> - Even if you want to run your own ISP or web server on a
> non-commercial basis, you still need a high-level provider to connect
> you to the rest of the net. If those providers have all decided to
> _exceed_ the level of control that the law requires to avoid mandatory
> regulation, or if they just decide among themselves that they can make
> sufficient money by running a big-business/family-friendly net, then
> no-one else has got a chance.
> It is exactly this sentiment that we have seen from everyone
> supporting the proposed extreme pornography laws: that the net should
> be family-friendly and "safe" for all, and anyone that does anything
> otherwise needs to be locked up.
> "the internet should be a safe, secure and essential part of our
> everyday life, for ourselves, our families and most of all our
> children." - Jane Longhurst Trust
> I predict that once "extreme pornography" has successfully gone
> through, our moral guardians will start to tackle mainstream
> pornography, unacceptable "extreme" political sites, etc.
> --
> Lothario.
> "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death my right
> to stop you saying it." - Charles Clarke (attributed)
> --
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guy, 08 Nov 2005 22:15:42
> This might be a slight trap. If anything, I suggest you design your OWN online
> consultation response form (or design a document that can be circulated to
> would-be resp[ondents).
>
> The point noted so far is that the Scottish version forces you down a route
> whereby you either have to buy into the proposal or reject it in its entirety
> (and you don't really need a form to do that).
>
I intend to respond the old-fashioned way, in writing, to avoid that trap.
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Amelie, 08 Nov 2005 22:49:48
that is what I did, although I kept very close to the original. Amelie
----- Original Message -----
, 08 Nov 2005 22:49:48
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:58 PM
> This might be a slight trap. If anything, I suggest you design your OWN
> online consultation response form (or design a document that can be
> circulated to would-be resp[ondents).
>
> The point noted so far is that the Scottish version forces you down a
> route whereby you either have to buy into the proposal or reject it in its
> entirety (and you don't really need a form to do that).
>
> Regards,
>
> M
>
> Author wrote:
>> In trying to make up a response pack to forward to would-be respondants,
>> I
>> have once again failed to find a link to the online response sheet to the
>> consultation on extreme pornography. I have visited both backlash sites
>> and unfettered.
>> I notice there does not seem to be a link from the smart group to the new
>> web site, which was therefore not easy to find and I only found the
>> suggested views by accident after having searched through files. But
>> then, I
>> responded to postings and emails for weeks before discovering a
>> particular
>> thread for research queries.
>> have tried many ways to find online consultation response form on extreme
>> pornography. Search engines find links which lead to page not found
>> errors
>> and Home office home page search engine returns no matches found for
>> consultation on extreme pornography or even for pornography alone.
>> still the only reliable link seems to be from unfettered to the scottish
>> version and even there the online interactive form seems to have
>> disappeared .
>> any ideas - it is obviously easier to get people to fill in an on-line
>> form
>> than print off and respond by post to the entire pdf consultation file.
>> Amelie
>> ----- Original Message -----
m: "Lothario" , 08 Nov 2005 22:49:48
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: [backlash] Role of the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF)
>> Note that in some countries (eg. Singapore, China), the only way to
>> legally access the Internet is through a state-approved or state-owned
>> ISP. This gives the state direct control over what is said and the
>> power to simply remove the ability of people they don't like to use
>> the Internet entirely.
>> I'm not saying that it will happen here in quite the same way, because
>> there is money involved and the UK government wouldn't want to do
>> anything to offend big business or fall foul of various EU/WTO trade
>> rules.
>> However, there are other effects of the increasing amount of regulation:
>> - It entrenches the position of large Internet businesses and
>> threatens that of small ones. Small businesses find it much harder to
>> cope with the overhead of red tape.
>> - Even if you want to run your own ISP or web server on a
>> non-commercial basis, you still need a high-level provider to connect
>> you to the rest of the net. If those providers have all decided to
>> _exceed_ the level of control that the law requires to avoid mandatory
>> regulation, or if they just decide among themselves that they can make
>> sufficient money by running a big-business/family-friendly net, then
>> no-one else has got a chance.
>> It is exactly this sentiment that we have seen from everyone
>> supporting the proposed extreme pornography laws: that the net should
>> be family-friendly and "safe" for all, and anyone that does anything
>> otherwise needs to be locked up.
>> "the internet should be a safe, secure and essential part of our
>> everyday life, for ourselves, our families and most of all our
>> children." - Jane Longhurst Trust
>> I predict that once "extreme pornography" has successfully gone
>> through, our moral guardians will start to tackle mainstream
>> pornography, unacceptable "extreme" political sites, etc.
>> --
>> Lothario.
>> "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death my right
>> to stop you saying it." - Charles Clarke (attributed)
>> --
>> If you want to share pictures, use the calendar, or start a vote
>> visit http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Backlash
>> To leave the Group, email: Backlash-unsubscribe@smartgroups.com
>> Report abuse
>> http://www.smartgroups.com/text/abusereport.cfm?gid%3D3271426&mid%3D1374
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doulos, 09 Nov 2005 01:16:20
I have never even seen this fabled online response form. However, I
checked with the Home Office and found they are perfectly willing to
accept responses via their email address:
CLPUconsultations@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
Which in practice is almost as easy as filling out a webform. So I
would just direct everyone to the Home Office page where the
consultation is displayed and where their contact details are:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/cons-extreme-porn-300805
doulos