Conservative Party leadership contest consultation exercise
Nigel Meek, 07 Nov 2005 18:29:28
Despite being a libertarian I remain a paid-up member of the Conservative Party which I first got involved with some twenty years ago. (My local lot are a good bunch of people.) As such, the leadership ballot papers landed on my doormat this morning.
So what now? What I’d like, of course, is for the ballot to resolve that the entire financial and physical holdings of the Conservative Party – and perhaps even some of the people! – should be handed over to do with as they wish to a special committee formed from organisations such as the Libertarian Alliance and the Society for Individual Freedom. Backlash would supply the whips for the new parliamentary party. (Sorry, I couldn’t resist it!)
Sadly, this otherwise ideal “Option 3” isn’t available. I’ve looked REALLY hard just in case.
So, it’s a choice between David “just your run of the mill old Etonian who’s never had a proper job but who’s got a disabled daughter” Cameron or David “charisma bypass” Davis.
I incline towards one of the candidates, but not sufficiently strongly that I’m not open to persuasion if anyone can come up with a good reason.
Any ideas?
Nigel Meek
MsDemmie, 07 Nov 2005 18:35:04
Maybe asking them their opinions on the consultation process would assist in the decision ?
Paul C. Dickie, 08 Nov 2005 04:41:00
In message <3257406.1131388163647.JavaMail.root@thallium.smartgroups.com
>, nigel@libertarian.co.uk wrote:
>I incline towards one of the candidates, but not sufficiently strongly that I\x{2019}m
>not open to persuasion if anyone can come up with a good reason.
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>Any ideas?
Use the ballot paper to wipe your backside.
That way, at least you'll be doing something *useful* with it.
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< Paul >
< ... formerly a ward treasurer in the Tory Party, until he grew out of it. >
Paul Tavener, 08 Nov 2005 08:10:36
not open to persausion?
Well I'll have a go anyway if in doubt vote for the youngest one. The youngest is more likely to have a more liberal stance if that's important, which I think it is.
Author wrote:
> Despite being a libertarian I remain a paid-up member of the Conservative Party which I first got involved with some twenty years ago. (My local lot are a good bunch of people.) As such, the leadership ballot papers landed on my doormat this morning.
> So what now? What I’d like, of course, is for the ballot to resolve that the entire financial and physical holdings of the Conservative Party – and perhaps even some of the people! – should be handed over to do with as they wish to a special committee formed from organisations such as the Libertarian Alliance and the Society for Individual Freedom. Backlash would supply the whips for the new parliamentary party. (Sorry, I couldn’t resist it!)
> Sadly, this otherwise ideal “Option 3” isn’t available. I’ve looked REALLY hard just in case.
> So, it’s a choice between David “just your run of the mill old Etonian who’s never had a proper job but who’s got a disabled daughter” Cameron or David “charisma bypass” Davis.
> I incline towards one of the candidates, but not sufficiently strongly that I’m not open to persuasion if anyone can come up with a good reason.
> Any ideas?
> Nigel Meek
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Nigel Meek, 08 Nov 2005 08:29:24
Apologies - I used an unnecessarily clunky double negative, so I AM open to persuasion! Not that it's an appetising choice!
NGM
Author wrote:
> not open to persausion?
> Well I'll have a go anyway if in doubt vote for the youngest one. The youngest is more likely to have a more liberal stance if that's important, which I think it is.
> Author wrote:
> > Despite being a libertarian I remain a paid-up member of the Conservative Party which I first got involved with some twenty years ago. (My local lot are a good bunch of people.) As such, the leadership ballot papers landed on my doormat this morning.
> > So what now? What I’d like, of course, is for the ballot to resolve that the entire financial and physical holdings of the Conservative Party – and perhaps even some of the people! – should be handed over to do with as they wish to a special committee formed from organisations such as the Libertarian Alliance and the Society for Individual Freedom. Backlash would supply the whips for the new parliamentary party. (Sorry, I couldn’t resist it!)
> > Sadly, this otherwise ideal “Option 3” isn’t available. I’ve looked REALLY hard just in case.
> > So, it’s a choice between David “just your run of the mill old Etonian who’s never had a proper job but who’s got a disabled daughter” Cameron or David “charisma bypass” Davis.
> > I incline towards one of the candidates, but not sufficiently strongly that I’m not open to persuasion if anyone can come up with a good reason.
> > Any ideas?
> > Nigel Meek
> >
> >
>
>
clare, 08 Nov 2005 08:33:57
Why is younger more likely to be liberal? Wasn't true of Blairy-babes.
Being an ex-coke snorter might be relevant to tolerance of personal frailties though.
Author wrote:
> not open to persausion?
> Well I'll have a go anyway if in doubt vote for the youngest one. The youngest is more likely to have a more liberal stance if that's important, which I think it is.
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adrian, 08 Nov 2005 17:08:04
My MP is the youngest in the House I believe, and a female LibDem.
The voting record is extremely confusing, but I fear her liberal
viewpoints aren't necessarily open to our position. We'll see....
On 08/11/05, Paul C. Dickie wrote:
> In message <4462278.1131438824999.JavaMail.root@thallium.smartgroups.com
> >, pearl_maude1@hotmail.com wrote:
> >Why is younger more likely to be liberal? Wasn't true of Blairy-babes.
Paul Tavener, 08 Nov 2005 20:22:23
Younger people have been brought up in a more open society with more choice and freedom in many areas. This is no hard and fast rule, there are plenty of young pro-censorship people about, but there is a far greater proportion who are anti-censorship.
Case in point Mediawatch, moral guardians of the airwaves. Last year they announced that the organisation would cease to exist in its present form within a few years if they didn't get more support. The reason, their core supports are now so old that they are dying off and there are few new recruits. Ofcom have repeatedly found in servays that the older generation are far more offended by what they see on TV than the younger generation are.
Author wrote:
> Why is younger more likely to be liberal? Wasn't true of Blairy-babes.
> Being an ex-coke snorter might be relevant to tolerance of personal frailties though.
> Author wrote:
> > not open to persausion?
> > Well I'll have a go anyway if in doubt vote for the youngest one. The youngest is more likely to have a more liberal stance if that's important, which I think it is.
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