wrote:
> >Obviously, to do it for real could involve being
> arrested for indecent
> >exposure, since the subs would have to drop their
> trousers (or skirts)
> >in order for the welts to appear in the picture.
>
> If they were all wearing thongs, their buttocks
> would be visible but
> their naughty bits wouldn't. Moreover, if they were
> all wearing kilts
> (or skirts) they'd surely only have to *raise* them
> for the welts to be
> photographed.
Ah, but if you raised them, the T-shirt clogans might
not be clearly visible. The thongs would work,
though.
>
> In fact, the whole thing *could* be done in a studio
> using front
> projection of the background, but it might be more
> effective on location
> as other news media might also be interested...
It has to be done on location, otherwise it isn't a
news event, so all we'd have done is create "extreme"
pornography.
However, if we can follow up with a statement to the
press "if we'd done this in private, the photos would
be illegal" (because then they wouldn't be news and
therefore wouldn't be exempt) then one of the
absurdities of the proposed legislation is exposed.
Ta,
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Paul Tavener, 05 Nov 2005 21:54:15
Perhaps a slogan along the lines of "should the police be chasing after people like this? Or should they be employed fighting real criminals? Would be good
Author wrote:
> First thought:
> We could see about getting something organised
> (hopefully something big) for the May Day protests
> next year.
> A couple of years ago there was an event for the Sex
> Workers' Union, so it shouldn't be too hard to get
> some interest.
> Although, maybe some would say we shouldn't associate
> ourselves with all those dirty hairy radicals...
> Second thought:
> For publicity, seriously newsworthy event (in the
> tabloids at any rate):
> Between 6 and 12 subs with fairly fresh cane, flogger
> or spanking welts on their backsides in a photograph
> in front of Downing Street or the Houses of
> Parliament. All wearing T-shirts with the slogan "I
> like my bum to look like this"
> Obviously, to do it for real could involve being
> arrested for indecent exposure, since the subs would
> have to drop their trousers (or skirts) in order for
> the welts to appear in the picture.
> Therefore, it might be wise to arrange it as a
> lightning stop, with people arriving in a van,
> bundling out, lining up for the shot, and bundling
> back into the van, very quickly.
> For maximum effect, I think a mix of male and female
> subs would be best (maybe alternating along the line?)
> (maybe the T-shirts on the front say "what do you
> think you're looking at?")
> Ta,
> SnowdropExplodes
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Manniq, 06 Nov 2005 11:31:52
Hey Ho.... and I remember the '70's and the 'Sing if You're Glad to be Gay' anthem that was very effective in some quarters.
Perhaps we should dust that one off.
Regards,
M
Author wrote:
> Perhaps a slogan along the lines of "should the police be chasing after people like this? Or should they be employed fighting real criminals? Would be good
> Author wrote:
> > First thought:
> > We could see about getting something organised
> > (hopefully something big) for the May Day protests
> > next year.
> > A couple of years ago there was an event for the Sex
> > Workers' Union, so it shouldn't be too hard to get
> > some interest.
> > Although, maybe some would say we shouldn't associate
> > ourselves with all those dirty hairy radicals...
> > Second thought:
> > For publicity, seriously newsworthy event (in the
> > tabloids at any rate):
> > Between 6 and 12 subs with fairly fresh cane, flogger
> > or spanking welts on their backsides in a photograph
> > in front of Downing Street or the Houses of
> > Parliament. All wearing T-shirts with the slogan "I
> > like my bum to look like this"
> > Obviously, to do it for real could involve being
> > arrested for indecent exposure, since the subs would
> > have to drop their trousers (or skirts) in order for
> > the welts to appear in the picture.
> > Therefore, it might be wise to arrange it as a
> > lightning stop, with people arriving in a van,
> > bundling out, lining up for the shot, and bundling
> > back into the van, very quickly.
> > For maximum effect, I think a mix of male and female
> > subs would be best (maybe alternating along the line?)
> > (maybe the T-shirts on the front say "what do you
> > think you're looking at?")
> > Ta,
> > SnowdropExplodes
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday
> > snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
zak, 06 Nov 2005 22:45:41
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-OJT- snowdrop-explodes@talk21.com, 06 Nov 2005 22:45:41
Between 6 and 12 subs with fairly fresh cane, flogger
or spanking welts on their backsides in a photograph
in front of Downing Street or the Houses of
Parliament. All wearing T-shirts with the slogan "I
like my bum to look like this"
Therefore, it might be wise to arrange it as a
lightning stop, with people arriving in a van,
bundling out, lining up for the shot, and bundling
back into the van, very quickly.
Unfortunately it's a bad time of year for that one, because the best way to
get away with
shoots like that is to do them at about 5am when there's no one around but
the sky's just
got light. Good idea, but it had better wait till the clocks go forward...
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«No Name Set», 07 Nov 2005 00:02:49
there have been several later versions of it.... right up to it
being OK to come out in the Met and "We're dancing in heaven -
who cares about Hell?". Now, let's see....
The British police are the best in the world
I don't believe one of these stories I've heard
'Bout them raiding our homes for no reason at all
Scouring computers and every firewall
Hunting through trashcans and old email spam
We're facing arrest as they rummage the RAM.
One pop-up thumbnail, that means three years?
I don't belive that sort of thing -
- STILL -
- happens here.
Anyone want to email Home Truths and ask Tom if he'd mind his
tune being borrowed??
Rosemary
manniq@hotmail.com writes:
Hey Ho.... and I remember the '70's and the 'Sing if You're
Glad to be Gay' anthem that was very effective in some quarters.
Perhaps we should dust that one off.
Regards,
M
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Graham Marsden, 07 Nov 2005 00:10:20
Rosemary wrote:
> The British police are the best in the world
> I don't believe one of these stories I've heard
> 'Bout them raiding our homes for no reason at all
> Scouring computers and every firewall
> Hunting through trashcans and old email spam
> We're facing arrest as they rummage the RAM.
> One pop-up thumbnail, that means three years?
> I don't belive that sort of thing -
> - STILL -
> - happens here.
I like it!
> Anyone want to email Home Truths and ask Tom if he'd mind his
> tune being borrowed??
May I suggest that since you came up with it, you'd be the best to pitch
it to him?
Hell, you may even get him to sing it for us!
Cheers,
Graham.
«No Name Set», 07 Nov 2005 18:50:50
OK, but can someone please tell me exactly what we want to use
it for, and why? - which if I were he, I'd be asking.
ANyone any idea whether he'd be likely to support the cause?
Rosemary
In message <436E9BE3.5020907@affordable-leather.co.uk> graham writes:
Rosemary wrote:
> The British police are the best in the world
> I don't believe one of these stories I've heard
> 'Bout them raiding our homes for no reason at all
> Scouring computers and every firewall
> Hunting through trashcans and old email spam
> We're facing arrest as they rummage the RAM.
> One pop-up thumbnail, that means three years?
> I don't belive that sort of thing -
> - STILL -
> - happens here.
I like it!
> Anyone want to email Home Truths and ask Tom if he'd mind his
> tune being borrowed??
May I suggest that since you came up with it, you'd be the best to pitch
it to him?
Hell, you may even get him to sing it for us!
Cheers,
Graham.
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Graham Marsden, 07 Nov 2005 19:46:17
Rosemary wrote:
> OK, but can someone please tell me exactly what we want to use
> it for, and why? - which if I were he, I'd be asking.
>
> ANyone any idea whether he'd be likely to support the cause?
He's a "name", he's supported other "rights" issues before (eg Gay
Pride), if we had his name on top of the bill for a fundraising event it
could bring in more people...
The song could work well in a viral marketting campaign "hey, have you
heard this one...?"
Cheers,
Graham.
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OK, but can someone please tell me exactly what we want to use
it for, and why? - which if I were he, I'd be asking.
ANyone any idea whether he'd be likely to support the cause?
Rosemary
GIven his early work, one would think so - it depends how much of it he
might have
disowned now. It depends, indeed, what he's doing now - if he's the
headmaster of a
Catholic school or something he might not be all that helpful...
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SnowdropExplodes, 07 Nov 2005 20:26:07
--- graham wrote:
>
>
> Rosemary wrote:
>
> > OK, but can someone please tell me exactly what we
> want to use
> > it for, and why? - which if I were he, I'd be
> asking.
> >
> > ANyone any idea whether he'd be likely to support
> the cause?
>
> He's a "name", he's supported other "rights" issues
> before (eg Gay
> Pride), if we had his name on top of the bill for a
> fundraising event it
> could bring in more people...
I have a slot or two going spare on my 4th March
event. If someone contacted him (or gave me his
contact details) I'd be very happy to have him on my
line-up (assuming he said yes, of course!)
Would it make most sense for the person contacting him
to mention both the parody lyrics and the event, or to
have two different people contact him separately?
Ta,
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«No Name Set», 08 Nov 2005 18:06:30
Stuff to be eaten here
and here
and here in case....
-OJT- writes: this about Tom Robinson of Glad to be Gay fame:
--- graham wrote:
> He's a "name", he's supported other "rights" issues
> before (eg Gay
> Pride), if we had his name on top of the bill for a
> fundraising event it
> could bring in more people...
I have a slot or two going spare on my 4th March
event. If someone contacted him (or gave me his
contact details) I'd be very happy to have him on my
line-up (assuming he said yes, of course!)
Would it make most sense for the person contacting him
to mention both the parody lyrics and the event, or to
have two different people contact him separately?
I have no idea how to contact him! - must be 20 years since I
last tried.
Only way I could think of - hence earlier comment! - was to
email Home Truths, of Radio 4 fame, as he is one of the team of
presenters carrying on from John Peel, and ask them if they
could put us in touch. If anyone has any better ideas, or can
find things on the internet better than I can, please feel
free. Otherwise I'll do that.
I think it would be better to have a central contact - suggest
SnowdropExplodes would be better as he knows his plans. Feel
free to mention my rapid attempt at rewriting or not, as you see
fit (he could probably do his own new version if he wanted to;
he's done several version over the years).
Yes, he's supported the gay movement - but he's gay! At least,
I presume he'd still say he is, though I gather from what he was
saying on HT recently that he's not only got a female partner
and kids but is actually married. (He did recently mention GTBG
on HT, in the context of John Peel being the only person who'd
play it on the radio.) I have no idea if he'd be likely to
support a campaign connected with "extreme porn", or if he's any
connection to SM, let alone BDSM .... nearest I can think of is
hearing once he'd allegedly paired up with a
black-leather-wearing motorbike-riding dyke, but that's by no
means the same thing!
PS: on reflection I think he's doing other work for BBC radio
too - maybe someone who can find their way round the BBC web
site could find this, and/or a contact for him, there??
PPS: could probably sing it myself, if anyone wants to post resu
lts as internet viral thingy - find sheet music, dust off
guitar, coax fingers round the cha-cha-cha chords, etc. But
I've not the techie stuff to record it.
--
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fas
SnowdropExplodes, 08 Nov 2005 19:34:36
--- Rosemary wrote:
> I think it would be better to have a central contact
> - suggest
> SnowdropExplodes would be better as he knows his
> plans. Feel
> free to mention my rapid attempt at rewriting or
> not, as you see
> fit (he could probably do his own new version if he
> wanted to;
> he's done several version over the years).
>
I'll mention it - having a parody version and seeking
permission to use it makes a very good reason for the
initial contact, and once having mentioned that, I can
move on to explain the whole campaign and ask if he is
interested in taking part in any way.
>
> I have no idea if he'd be
> likely to
> support a campaign connected with "extreme porn", or
> if he's any
> connection to SM, let alone BDSM .... nearest I can
> think of is
> hearing once he'd allegedly paired up with a
> black-leather-wearing motorbike-riding dyke, but
> that's by no
> means the same thing!
>
>
> PS: on reflection I think he's doing other work for
> BBC radio
> too - maybe someone who can find their way round the
> BBC web
> site could find this, and/or a contact for him,
> there??
I did a quick google search, he has his own website
with links to contact him or his management company.
He is working on BBC Radio 6, apparently.
The biography section has this to say, which i think
is positive:
"Having fought so long for everyone's right to live
and love however they want, Tom was undeterred. His
mid-90s album was cheerfully titled "Having It Both
Ways" and in 1998 the bisexual epic "Blood Brother"
won him Best Song and Best Male Artist at the Gay &
Lesbian American Music Awards in New York.
"Tom remains an active supporter of Amnesty
International, The National Assembly Against Racism
and The Samaritans along with Peter Tatchell's
Outrage! campaign and many others. Still connecting,
sharing and breaking down barriers after all these
years."
It also says he definitely identifies as bisexual now,
rather than gay, and has written songs about that as
well.
We can but try.
Ta,
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«No Name Set», 10 Nov 2005 19:33:00
Well done for finding that, Snowdrop.
Good luck with the getting in touch bit.
But maybe it soudns better to talk of a "new version" than a
"parody"??
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