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SnowdropExplodes



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBFC, when it was originally set up, was indeed called, "British Board of Film Censorship", but that name was changed many decades ago.

Maybe this is a Freudian slip, revealing that they want to take us back to the days of Joynson-Hicks, and his statement, "if it would cause the littlest girl to blush, then it should not be allowed"...
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alanh



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that the change of name of the BBFC was all that long ago. Probably in the Thatcher period.

The new name is Orwellian, since certification by the BBFC is necessary before a film or video can be legally shown or distributed in the UK. That's censorship by any standard, and the old name at least had the virtue of honesty.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Liberties commitee recording Reply with quote

Just in case this is better for anyone, some shorter links, with it embedded in the browser, at:

Tuesday 16 October:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Player/index.aspx?Encoding=7443 - Magistrates’ Association, and Probation Boards’ Association, Police Federation of England and Wales (at 1h43m), Stonewall

Thursday 18 October:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Player/index.aspx?Encoding=7460 - Youth Justice Board, and Children’s Society

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Player/index.aspx?Encoding=7468 - Prison and Probation Ombudsman, Liberty (at 52 mins), Local Government Association

Does anyone know off hand which others of these cover extreme porn? I might try to stick this info on the wiki, so it's easy for people to find.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludo wrote:
Atleast the police woman on the Tuesday was corrected about it not being about child porn!
It would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious!

It's curious she says that people would only prosecuted if there was something more than arousal (though she doesn't seem to say what).

I'm glad that the interviewer makes the link with more mainstream violence, video games, etc - I mean, is the Government going to criminalise all violent images? (Well, I hope not - I wouldn't put anything past this Government! But at least there'd be far more opposition if violent films and video games were being considered alongside porn...)

He asks her for evidence, not including anecdotal evidence - and she replies with anecdotal evidence...

Still, if that's the best the supporters have, it's not so bad - are there any other supporters of the extreme porn law who have or will be speaking?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who prefer text
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmpbcriminal.htm
has the transcript of the 4 sessions so far.

As far as I can see
First sitting (Oct 16)
Q50 Harry Cohen and MoJ minister Maria Eagle

Second Sitting (Oct 16)
Q138 Jan Berry Chairman of the Police Federation gives evidence, questioned by Charles Walker & Vernon Coaker.

Third Sitting (Oct 18)
nothing on extreme porn

Fourth Sitting (Oct 18)
Q19 Gareth Crossman of Liberty questioned by Harry Cohen
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest commitee recording. I've not listened to it yet

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Player/Asx.aspx?content=instantarchive&Meeting=8060", 320, 51, false, 0
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Ludo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skimmed through latest recording no mention of the DPA.
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